Higher Page Rank: Missing information
I have been focusing a bit on trying to get a higher rank in the listings for the search term ‘Alex Jeffreys‘ on Google as per the $1,000 competition Alex announced. Now for all those readers that are NOT Alex Jeffreys students, understanding how to improve your Google search position is highly important as it allows you to apply that knowledge to any search term and thus dominate the crucial top positions for any markets you choose. So it is essential to understand how Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) works to really be on top of your competitors in any niche.
So, I’ve been going through all my Alex Jeffreys Coaching Course notes and trying to put things into practice to increase my ranking. Now before Christmas I was in the Top 5 returned results for ‘Alex Jeffreys‘ but it seems the more popular my blog and subsequent increase in traffic, I have actually slipped down the rankings to number 21 !! Obviously I’m not that pleased about this so am going to make a concerted effort to get up in the Top 5. This is going to be an ongoing task until I meet my objective.
One of the best SEO experts in our group of Alex Jeffreys students, that I know of, is JT Martin. So I am going to read more closely some of his posts that I have previously read. I notice he has been making a move up the rankings (present ranked #15), no doubt using his skills but then I thought to start out I would do some ‘spying’ (market research) on the leading student blog in the rankings. Presently, ranked at number 5 on Google is Steve Harold and this took me by surprise and even more so when I started to investigate what he was doing to manage such an impressive ranking. So I started to compare my blog with his to try and glean any nuggets to improve my rankings. And this is where I became even more confused as you will see by the results of the comparisons.
Firstly, I used the SEOQuake plugin to get some vital stats for both our sites. I was really expecting this to show me where I was failing and thus I could focus on. But look at the snapshot below:-
(Click to enlarge)
Steve Harolds’s blog is shown at the top and my figures at the bottom.
What it shows is that for every statistic (bar one and this is to do with MSN so I think we can discount that), my site is rated higher in every respect. And not just marginally so; mine absolutely trounces Steve’s site by quite staggering margins in some areas!! (Sorry Steve, no offence here, but I just want to use you as an example to highlight that the factors I excel at obviously have no bearing on securing a better search position in Google, which is the very surprising conclusion). Very surprising ! Let’s just take a few stats which you would have thought were directly relevant to getting a high ranking to highlight the apparent extreme differences between the two sites by comparing the respective figures for Steve’s site against my own:
Google Rage Rank: 0 v 1
Yahoo inbound links: 44 v 712
Yahoo linkdomains: 72 v 1053
Alexa Ranking: 16,806,261 V 239,787
(lower the better here)
Next I popped over to Steve’s Blog to see if I could see anything that was going on there to get to the bottom of his very impressive Google search position. Nothing stood out. He had a good functional blog, but again when I critically examined it against my own to see where I could improve I was left scratching my head. There appeared to be nothing Steve was doing with regard to onsite SEO that I felt I was not doing on my own. I viewed the page source on many of his posts to see if there was something hidden away and yet if there was I couldn’t find it !! In fact, I get the impression from Steve’s site he his no SEO expert as even his permalinks structure wasn’t SEO friendly so whatever he has done to get the Top 5 ranking didn’t appear to be there.
So this left me to focus on one of the SEOQuake stats that could reveal a significant clue to the way Google ranks sites for its search results. Steve only has 24 links to external sites of which 11 have the ‘Nofollow’ attribute set, thus 13 ‘DoFollow’. I have 85 external links of which 77 are set to ‘NoFollow’ and 8 ‘Dofollow’. Now I have far more external links and does this have an impact on the way Google ranks its search results?
Does Google see my site as somehow not worthy of inclusion high up as I link to far too many other sites for its liking, albeit most are set to ‘nofollow’. Now this ‘NoFollow’ attribute I only set a week or so ago when I did my Blogroll changes as prior to that I would have had way in excess of 100 external links on my front page plus far more on secondary pages too. Do this ‘Nofollow’ change take a while for Google to take account of? Doesn’t appear so if you look as JT Martins posts on the subjects.
So I’m left with a dilemma. I want to improve my search position but to be honest I don’t have a clue which way to turn now. All the factors Alex Jeffreys mentions in the ‘Traffic Tornadoes’ webinar when I critically analyse Steve’s application of them against my own, then by all accounts I should be higher in the rankings. But I’m not. There is some other piece of the jigsaw that is missing and MISSING FOR ALL OF US I FEEL. Is it the external links ‘issue’ I have identified above? Or is it some other factor? But what? There is little point in me focusing effort in any of the areas mentioned in the webinar to improve my search position as like I say if it were purely down to that I would be higher than Steve’s blog already. So I need to delve further into this area to ensure I understand more to enable me to rectify it.
This reminds me that earlier in 2008 I purchased a SEO course which at the time I thought was very good. However, until the Alex Jeffreys course I didn’t really understand how to use such knowledge to build a business. With what I know now it’s probably a good idea to revisit that course and see if I can put it to good use. Maybe the answer will be hidden somewhere in there.
I’d also like to know what others think about my appraisal of the above position. Have others had similar sorts of findings and are struggling to make progress? What about the SEO experts out there; based on the above information why is Steve Harold’s blog ranked so highly? I think the answer will be of interest to everyone. Or is it a mystery to them too?
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he assures me there are only so many ways you can improve your rankings
True enough. Don’t forget that those “ways” fall into two categories. The white hat ways and the black hat ways.
When you’re checking out the competition, don’t forget to use View –> Source. Amazing what you see, sometimes.
Hi [Q],
Hmmmm, I get what you mean.
As for viewing source. Yes I’ve done that on a lot of the sites I want to learn from. In a lot of cases I understand it all but then I come across something and think – What?? Just baffles me, but I just save it in a folder and hopefully I’ll be able to come back to it later with great knowledge and understand it then. I don’t like to give up.
My friend though, understands everything so I’ll just wait and see what hidden Google secrets he’ll be able to reveal to us.
Oh, Gazza, mentioned yesterday that he couldn’t view the source for Alex Jeffreys site when it was showing up as ‘insurance’. Well, I worked out how to do it and that threw up some funny things I didn’t understand as well – and not to do with the ‘insurance’ hacking either. I guess that’s something else I should throw at my mate, as like I say – I like to know. It could be something that I need to be doing on my site.
Thanks for popping by Q.
@Garry (#47): This is a case where I think the word ‘hacked’ is too strong. Yes, technically it has been hacked, but really just a couple of files have been editted.
If I’m being honest (And I know it sounds strange!), but having a partially hacked blog is more beneficial for what the hacker is after. Let me explain, the way things are done, means that the blog is still searchable for new content. This first of all mean that it’s less noticeable, so the hacker could get away with it for a lot longer.
Now is when we get to the tricky part, or at least it’s the part where I’m not 100% sure on. The reason why we you weren’t being redirected to anything insurance related is becauce the hacker didn’t upload cde that did that.
From what I can see, as there is many hyperlinks pointing to insurance sites. Most of the time being the same insurance site, I believe the Search Engine Bot’s would decide to go spider that particular insurance site. In my eyes, it’s almost like hidden backlinks from high-traffic sites.
The only reason it was spotted the first time, was because it stopped Alex from logging into his admin area. The files the hackers had uploaded were obviously conflicting with some of WordPress, and how it functions.
To sum it all up though, I see it as a potential way to gain some backlinks from the sites that the hackers target. I could be completely wrong, but all the search engines see to start with is all the insurance crap!
Regarding your second paragraph, I could probably spend all day talking about things to do. I’ve read so many tutorials/guides online from other people, that I think I’ll write a post about it.
There are the basic’s, like making sure you don’t use Micky Mouse passwords. I’ll make sure to link up some good atricles I’ve read, and I’ll have the post done in a couple of days!
I don’t mean to be promoting my blog in any such way, it’s just I feel it’d be easier to address everyone than just visitors to your blog Garry!
How does that sound?…
Thanks
Mark
Hi Mark,
Pardon me for asking such an obvious question but how do you know all that stuff? I am bewildered by your depth of knowledge of Alex’s website and its internal machinations. Do you do work for him or something?
Gary Simpson
Garry… be sure to ask your friend about hiding stuff with CSS. You know, like hidden keywords and hidden links. Bet he’ll give you an earful. If you go looking, you can find an eyeful, too, if you know what you’re looking for.
Hi Gary (#55),
First of all, something like this could very well happen to anyone. Not just Alex, it just so happend that it did!
I know about those links right at the top of the source code, because you can view it yourself. There is no law against it, I don’t know the ins and outs about having an option to view the source. (All I know is that you can right-click, and View Source!)
To be honest, I don’t really know everything about Alex’s website. He uses WordPress, and it works just like any other WP Version out there (basically!) I myself have a a couple of blogs, and so there become familiar with things happening.
Just after WordPress 2.7 was released, Alex spotted me Twittering about the fact I’d just upgraded. He called me, and explained about the problem with his blog. I don’t work for him, but have sorted his blog when the ‘hackers’ do something to it. If I’ve sorted something for Alex, I ALWAYS tell him, which I did yesterday and he was very greatful for it!
Anyway, if you want to double check anything, then I’d suggest talking to the main man himself! – I do as much to help anyone and everyone without asking for anything in return, all you need to do is ask!
Thanks
Mark
Apart from black hat methods, some of which have already been mentioned here, the quality and quantity of backlinks to your blogs from well-ranked sites are a great way to get better ranking.
1. Submitting articles to high-ranking directories such as Ezine Articles,
2. Commenting on `do-follow’ blogs,
3. Social networking and bookmarking on sites such as Delicious, Digg, Stumbleupon etc.,
4. Commenting on high-ranking forums.
These are just a few ways to spread your links across the net.
As for blog security, yes, I agree, people do tend to spend a lot more time on the front end of their blog than the backstage bit. I wrote a post on my own blog about this a little while back.
Being in he hosting business, the most common cause I see of blogs being hacked is that bloggers simply don’t keep them up-to-date with the latest version, this can cause all kinds of problems, including compromising your server and being kicked off your hosting.
You can read a bit more here
http://paula-brett.com/blog/could-your-wordpress-blog-be-hacked/
Hi Gary,
Just did a search on MSN with the words Alex Jeffreys (separated) and i come up FIRST perhaps alex will give me a booby prize.?
ps: Have my little changes worked?
Mark Terrell
http://www.markterrell.co.uk
>Mark –
Thanks for that explanation about the ‘hacking’ I think the more people who throw their experience into the hat the better. Though, actually we started out discussing SEO so I’m not quite sure how we got onto hacking, LOL.
Actually, I know now – it was with the attention everyone is giving to the Google search positions we noticed something obviously wrong with Alex’s site. Look forward to your post. Your explanation made a lot of sense. I guess in the end, some hackers just do it for the amusement so I suppose trying to psycho analyze their motives is doomed from the outset!!
Look forward to your post about the security. Hey and don’t worry about promoting your blog. It’s not as though you are pimping anything. You have something of value to say and so should advertise that fact. I will keep popping over to your site to check things out but by all means when you have something ready just drop a comment over here. I am sure you will have a lot of people who will want to pop over to your blog and have a read.
He’s certainly a trusting man Alex, giving you password access to his site and you certainly must have impressed him and earned his trust. Well done and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
>Paula –
Thanks for that link. I will check it out. Thing I am concerned about is that I am on Wordpres 2.6. I dare not upgrade to 2.7 just in case it screws up my permalink structure or anything else as any sites that have links to me will all be broken. I asked about the risks of upgrading several times and no-one as confirmed whether there will be an issue or not.
Hey, just following that link I see that you are acquainted to Mark M from a while ago, even before the Alex Jeffreys course. It’s a small world, even in cyber space, LOL.
Oh, and finally Paula I’ve just checked and I can’t believe it but you are nowhere in my Blogroll. How did that happen? I’m sure you used to be. Maybe I accidently deleted you with my last big reshuffle. Sorry if that was the case
I’ll add you back
>Gary –
I’m bewildered by all of this, LOL. So your not the only one but slowly making headway.
>Q – thanks for the suggestion about CSS. But like you say I think my expert friend will tell me where to go if I try to interfere !! He knows his stuff and won’t appreciate me meddling. And looking at the source you can certainly ‘find an eyeful’ as you put it. Now our mentor Alex did tell us to use various techniques to ‘spy’ on our competitors (legally of course) and that includes him !
>Mark T –
Congratulations on the booby prize, LOL. Though it does looks as they have had a massive effect on MSN. I guess you wasn’t in number one position before?
Shame it doesn’t seem to work on Google. I am #14 and you at #16 so we’ve both moved up from yesterday.
Mark T,
I tried to post a comment over on your site re. your latest post. You have to register and log on to do it. Nobody will bother doing that mate. You have to make things as easy as possible. It’s something that was discussed ages ago on the blogs. Just thought I’d let you know why you may not be getting the comments you hoped for -)
Garry, upgrading your blog won’t mess up your permalinks. I upgrade loads every day with my hosting company and we’ve never had an issue. Go for it.
Hi Paula,
Thanks i just thought no one loved me !!!!
I will change that tonight.
Everyone please please leave comments on my site from tomorrow.
Thank You Paula
mark terrell
http://www.markterrell.co.uk
Hi Gary,
Sorry Mate,
You tried to post a comment on my site.
I think i have fixed this now please leave your comments.
Thanks Mark
Garry (#60), I just published that post detailing some blog security tips/ideas. Better late than never as they always say, and I’m glad it’s finally out! – It felt like it took me weeks to write what I did! LOL
*How Far Do You Take Blog Security?*
Hope you like!
Thanks
Mark
Wow Garry…what a post and a lot of comments to the subject. Its all pretty daunting trying to understand all these things.
I agree that it is great that so many people have such a wide range of experience to draw upon..
Thanks for writing this in the first place..
Regards..Paul Mracek
>Mark T – I’ll pop over and add a comment to your site now !!
Hey, did you notice I’ve added you into the ‘Most Active Blogs’ section of my Blogroll after you brought it to my attention?
>Mark McW – Thanks for letting us all know about your Security Post. I for one will be popping over to read it as it is a crucial area we shouldn’t neglect.
>Paul – My pleasure Paul. Glad all this SEO stuff is useful to everyone.
**** UPDATE ON PROGRESS ****
Just noticed I’ve moved up to number 8 in the Google search results for the word ‘alex jeffreys’.
Some of the changes I have done obviously take a time to filter through to Google but I am well pleased at the steps I have taken are having the desired effective. I’ve just been working through the tips and techniques that are explained in the course I mentioned previously that I bought last year. It is proving to be a real gem this course but like I said before, until I signed up with AJ I really didn’t know how to focus it properly. It’s all coming together now
Loads more stuff included in it as well so I will just keep chipping away making small steps in the right direction.
Keep going Gazza (Sir Lancelot!)
I wanna see you at #1 buddy. You, above ALL else, DESERVE it. You are like Sir Lancelot – the white knight of the round table (LOL).
You’ll see me coming up the ranks there too bro’.
Unfortunately, Google reports different results in different countries. When I was #12 in Oz yesterday, you said I was #19 in the UK. Now today you say you are #8 in the UK but I see you and me at #14 and #15 in Oz.
I will bet in the US they see different to that. I have great friends in the US and I know for a FACT that Google displays differently there to Oz coz I have been speaking with them on VOIP about a certain page and they don’t see that page on the same page that I do. It is all very inconsistent and confusing.
I’m also willing to bet that Florida, New Jersey and California, where my friends live, will also display differently but there’s no real benefit in me knowing that so I haven’t bothered asking.
But keep going mate. Chaaaaaaaaaaaarge! LOL!
Gary SIMPSON (Sir Gawain)
PS Wiki those names – too funny!
Hi Gary,
Just did a search in google today for alex Jeffreys, guess what. One of my listings comes 2nd .
I created a group on propeller for all the alex jeffreys students to join to get more back links and google seems to like this.
So if any of the 500 students what to add there website just click on the link.
Thanks for adding me to the most active blogs garry
.
well done on getting your website up the listings.
Mark Terrell (marketingwithmark)
http://www.markterrell.co.uk
Hi Mark,
Well done. But which website/listing?
I’ve check http://www.markterrell.co.uk and in the UK it is listed at #22. I know results across the world seem a little different but is that the site I should be checking?
And Mark what is the ‘marketingwithmark’Is that another website as I can’t seem to find it.
My pleasure adding you to the Most Active Blogs Blogroll. I try to make sure the list is the top blogs and if anyone want’s to be added just shout and I’ll check it out.
Hi Garry, I am not good at rankings but here is something of interest.
In creating my video for the Alex Jeffreys competition where we are trying for the most video views, I did the following…
I created my video. ( The Hard Part )
I put the keywords blog and business in my title.
I put the same two keywords in my description and my tags.
In three days I was number one for the keywords blog business in Google under “videos”
I’ve been on top for three weeks now out of about 28,000 videos getting me a lot of hits.
All of this was on the advice of Maria Andros and it has worked wonders.
Hope this helps and keep aiming for that number one!
Michael J Ottman
Well done Michael,
I’ve subscribed to your YouTube video channel and will keep an eye on what you are up to
I think the potential of video marketing is awesome.
My YouTube channel, for those that want to subscribe is:-
http://www.youtube.com/garryparkes1
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I have read many and believe me many articles on how to increase your page rank? But, none seems to work out for me.
I like this article and i will try what i gathered from here. Wish me luck.
You have a great blog here and it is Nice to read some well written posts that have some relevancy…keep up the good work